Exploring Vibe Coding as a Competitive Advantage
A conversation with Jonathan Hrovat, Engagement Coordinator @ ChurchWest Insurance
In this episode, Marcelo sits down with Jonathan Hrovat, Engagement Coordinator at ChurchWest Insurance, to explore whether Vibe Coding can truly provide businesses with a competitive advantage. They discuss how this emerging approach, combining AI assistance with human creativity, might reshape how organizations innovate, collaborate, and deliver value. The conversation takes a balanced look at both the potential and the pitfalls of adopting Vibe Coding in real-world business environments.
Key Topics Covered
- Understanding Vibe Coding in a Business Setting — How AI driven development is bringing software engineering to non-traditional teams.
- Making Agentic Work — How Vibe Coding and modern platforms can help convert existing business logic into AI driven applications.
- Cultural and Operational Shifts — Why engineers must learn to think like managers and managers must learn to think like engineers.
- The Vibe Gap — Why current business leadership is holding back AI and why demand for developers will explode in the coming years.
- The Super Power of Vibe Coding – Why every company must become a software company and the role today’s Vibe Coders will play in this economic shift.
Resources to Check Out
About the Guest

Jonathan Hrovat, Engagement Coordinator @ ChurchWest Insurance
Jonathan is a seasoned insurance professional who is passionate about all areas sales and marketing. He's a Full Stack Marketer with experience in all areas of digital marketing, event planning and sales leadership. He is also a vibe coder building apps that integrate with SalesForce.
About the Host

Marcelo Lewin, Founder @ iBuildWith.ai
Marcelo is the founder of iBuildWith.ai. He has 30+ years of experience in the tech industry. He's a Vibe Coder Advocate, passionate about helping non-developers build apps using AI. Prior to launching iBuildWith.ai, Marcelo founded several other startups and held roles at companies like Toyota, NBC, Cigna, J.F. Shea, and Walt Disney Imagineering.
